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Saturday, August 10

PC Gamer UK posts their top 100 games: by Rosh - 1:06 -
Fallout 2 comes in at #90, Fallout is not even on the list.

The Fallout Universe was rendered in beautiful isometric detail. This is a dirty, grimy, dangerous, toxin ridden role-playing world. Whilst it runs apace a few yards behind the mighty Baldur's Gate II, this strong sequel improved on the original in all manner of ways. The actual universe remains much the same, with you going out on a complex quest across the radiation ravaged northern California to find yourself a garden of Eden kit (no, really). There were a few frustrating, stumbling block puzzles that upset, but put some spine into it and you, like many others, will gain immeasurable pleasures from this post-apocalyptic challenge.


Odd, since Fallout seemed to capture the feeling of the setting much better.

This is brought to you by the same people that rated Planescape: Tournament at #26. There is no logic to their rating system, other than the "hat" system, where they drew the names out of a hat. System Shock 2 comes in just barely above Micro Machines, and Tie-Fighter was just above that. The Sims was way down on the list, too, at #38.

Side note: Fallout was rated at #4 by PC Gamer US. As much as I've despised PC Gamer US in the past, it's good to see that someone proves they are not the worst around. Thank you, PC Gamer UK.

# 1
Name: Enclave_Patrolman
E-mail: N/A
Date: Sun Aug 11 12:57:09 2002
Comment:
I hate to say it but British people suck anyway. The only good thing to ever come out of GB was Monty Python.


# 2
Name: Treefrog
E-mail: jdaggar@myrealbox.com
Date: Sun Aug 11 19:56:42 2002
Comment:
The brits aren't so bad. It's just their food, their cars, their royalty, their weather, their public services, their television, their Panvia Tornadoes, their pay-by-the-minute local calling rates, their traffic rotaries, their superfluous use of the letter 'u', their Tories, their national insecurity over the loss of their empire, the frequency of sodomy between students at their all-boy boarding schools, their food which is easily bad enough to merit mentioning twice, and especially their proximity to France. To speak on their defense, Aaron Spelling is American. The fact that he's still alive is a crime every American has to answer for.

I would include the Gallagher brothers in that list, but I'm pretty sure they're just a sort of IQ test the Brits use on Americans-- if you like Oasis, you're too dumb to be allowed through customs.


# 3
Name: Rosh
E-mail: N/A
Date: Sun Aug 11 20:48:14 2002
Comment:
Yeah...let's kind of pull back the Brit-bashing, not really looking for that here. We also do have a good number of visitors from there.

Also, let's not forget the PC Gamer US moron who said the following:

[u]Scanning the Wasteland for Signs of Fallout [/u]

The hot rumor from Europe is that Fallout 3 might be under development at Black Isle Studios. Hints of this project have come up before, but this time it�s both the Swedish PC Gamer and the French PC Jeux who are reporting the development, and we think it�s for real.

Despite our pestering, Interplay is still keeping mum for the moment, but even the possibility of a new Fallout RPG has got me keenly interested. Australia-based Micro Fort� is in ruins after a disastrous economic meltdown in the wake of last year�s Fallout Tactics, but we understand that Black Isle is itself handling the development of this third installment in the renowned post�nuclear war roleplaying series.

So I�d just like to take a second and (a) Plead with Black Isle for the news to be true, and (b) List a few suggestions for the direction I�d love to see Fallout 3 take.

For starters, hang on to the black-comedy element that makes this series what it is. Dour gallows humor has kept us cackling through both of the previous Fallout RPGs, and it�s the glue that holds this wonderful franchise together.

Second, maybe try a slight shift away from the Mad Max ambience and [u]take a risk on a more high-tech, urban, Blade Runner�ish vibe[/u]. The first two games are classics, but I think a third desert trek might be going once too often to the well. [u]I�d be delighted to explore a more developed, built-up "dystopic city" theme for this go-round. Dazzle us with a slightly more cyberpunk vision[/u] of the Fallout world.

Another suggestion springs from one of the disappointments I�ve always had with the series: Why not throw in some true Kubrickian weirdness? Granted, the Fallout series is full of mutants and super-weapons, but it�s never delved into the out-and-out astounding. I�m talking about [u]alien revelations, contact with the monolith, time-folding, Tesla kind of weirdness[/u]. My biggest letdown with Fallout 2 was reaching the end and realizing that it was all just a matter of rescuing the folks imprisoned on the island. With a setting as vast and nasty as Fallout�s, why not branch out into the realm of the wild and blow us away with something really shocking?

The bottom line is, Fallout 3 would be some of the best news that the RPG community has had in a year. We�ll be aggressively pursuing those coy Black Isle folks and let you know everything we can ascertain. Hopefully, the beleaguered Interplay can get back on track with this colossal franchise.
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And the Award for Cluelessness goes to...


# 4
Name: Kemp
E-mail: kemp_will@hotmail.com
Date: Mon Aug 12 06:39:02 2002
Comment:
Its nice to see that its not just us that have unfair prejudices against the Americans ( I'm English ). The major reason why Fallot 2 came so low is that nowadays ( they rate the game on how good it is now, not several years ago ) is because the graphics ( when compared to modern games ) look like shite. Also Planescape Torment is a far better game , it actually allows your character to develop with you, it has interesting NPCs that are actually important, it looks better, there is some very good voice overs etc.
Don't judge people on racist prejudices or you'll become the next Hitler ( who we'll have to fight for the first three years of the war before you Yankees can be bothered to get off yer arses )

Rant over


# 5
Name: Luxian
E-mail: chuckey@gmx.de
Date: Mon Aug 12 09:02:56 2002
Comment:
nice to see how they called it
planescape "TOURNAMENT" though..

almost as nice as seeing NMA-staff making the same error.


# 6
Name: olie
E-mail: oliverellis@cheriton47.fsnet.co.uk
Date: Mon Aug 12 11:55:10 2002
Comment:
I'd just like to say I agree with what you say and am at a loss as to how they work it all out!
They have made good points about it also though.
P.S.
I dont know how anyone can successfully "position" so many games over such a long period of time.
I have many favourite games for example: Thief 1/Theif 2, Fallout 1/Fallout 2, Grim Fandango, Doom, Elite, Aliens versus Predator... etc etc and would be unable to discern between any of them.


# 7
Name: Hobo
E-mail: charles_jenkins@hotmail.com
Date: Mon Aug 12 12:00:08 2002
Comment:
Actually that's last years list i belive and as an avid reader of pc gamer uk i can say it's probably because it's had it's time and it's been replaced by Rpg's with new technology though they still love the fallouts in the radiactive pack they gave them a very high mark andthere is one flaw in their time= lower mark process half life has ruled their top 100 for years!


# 8
Name: Rosh
E-mail: N/A
Date: Mon Aug 12 13:29:02 2002
Comment:
>almost as nice as seeing NMA-staff making the same error.

Actually, I made a point of copying the error, so others would see it. :D


# 9
Name: Treefrog
E-mail: jdaggar@myrealbox.com
Date: Mon Aug 12 15:13:39 2002
Comment:

Point of order:

"Episode 1 racer" was on their top 100 list. Their incompetence is beyond question and the efforts of the most ardent apologists..

--Treefrog, who is delighted that his trolling invoked <a href="http://www.godwinslaw.com/">Godwin's Law</a> so quickly.


# 10
Name: olie
E-mail: oliverellis@cheriton47.fsnet.co.uk
Date: Mon Aug 12 16:34:05 2002
Comment:
has anyone got any rizla's?


# 11
Name: Gildas2001
E-mail: N/A
Date: Thu Aug 15 22:26:29 2002
Comment:
The ironic thing is, the same "PC Gamer US" idiot you so self-righteously quoted (Rob Smith) is BRITISH.

Oh the humanity!!!


# 12
Name: Rosh
E-mail: N/A
Date: Fri Aug 16 00:11:45 2002
Comment:
You're kidding me, right? Oh, fun...


# 13
Name: Gildas2001
E-mail: N/A
Date: Mon Aug 19 05:07:18 2002
Comment:
Sir, I kid thee not. Rob Smith, Editor-in-chief of PC Gamer US, is from England and enjoys torturing his co-workers with obscure British slang. Personally, I preferred his predecessor, Gary Whitta (also British).

Anyway I don't think he was a moron for suggesting that Fallout 3 go for a cyberpunk futuristic feel. Sounds like a breath of fresh air to me (if done right, anyway).

And of course I also strongly disagree with the needless PC Gamer US bashing. I've always trusted them for good, honest reviews and excellent strategy sections (their preference in the Top 40 for first-person shooters leaves something to be desired, though).

But hey, British people seem to enjoy bashing Americans for no apparent reason, even though (for the most part) we don't hold you guys in any bad light...the French, on the other hand...


# 14
Name: Rosh
E-mail: N/A
Date: Tue Aug 20 18:00:18 2002
Comment:
>Anyway I don't think he was a moron for suggesting that Fallout 3 go for a cyberpunk futuristic feel. Sounds like a breath of fresh air to me (if done right, anyway).

Too bad it's got nothing to do with cyberpunk, eh?


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